On Wednesday I was a former pastor of a warm, generous United Methodist congregation in a small rural town in North Carolina, a student at Duke Divinity with 3 extremely gracious professors willing to do anything to help me graduate in May, a husband to an incredibly supportive and loving wife, a father to 5 vivacious, beautiful kids, friend to a handful of fascinating people spread around the globe, and thrilled about what the future held as we stuffed boxes to move back home to Cleveland, Tennessee.
Thursday morning I woke up and saw my face on the cover of MSNBC.com. Before I could wipe up the coffee I spewed on myself (I have a habit of waking up every morning to coffee and prayer) my wife shouted from the bedroom that the phone was for me – it was Fox News in New York City. I let the coffee drip.
Friday morning Good Morning America called. I think I’m developing an ulcer.
Despite some new coffee stains and some stomach pain, I’m still the same guy I was on Wednesday with one exception: My heart aches over the brokenness of all of it. Of all of us.
Since I have a few extra friends today, and seem to have your attention at least for this news cycle, I have a few things I need to say. I hope you’ll pay attention.
First, I’m no victim. While I appreciate the many things said from what I know to be well-meaning people trying to lift my spirits, I assure you, I am doing great. I am not angry. I am not disgruntled. I’m not going to go postal. I’ll tell you what I told the GMA guy who wanted to know if I can fly to NYC for Sunday morning:
I’ll do this if it is for a theological discussion about heaven vs. hell and what it means to be a Christian but if your story is about a small-town pastor who lost his job, no thanks.
He said he’d call me back tomorrow morning after discussing it with his cast and crew. My guess is I’ll get to drink my coffee and have my prayers in peace tomorrow. Awesome.
Second, as a student-pastor in the United Methodist Church I am not a fully ordained elder. As such, there are different parameters surrounding the due-process for removing a pastor from a student-pastor appointment. I’m not going to pretend like I know what those parameters are, but I know this: My District Superintendent, Gray Southern, had my back from the beginning. My respect for him in the midst of this dicey situation only increased as he navigated me through this with grace and love. Every day he called me to see how I was doing and how my family was doing and to remind me that we are in his prayers.
As I reflect on all that has happened I regret that “fired” language (a corporate word that has no bearing in ecclesial matters like this one) got into the mix. I have written some things over the years on my blog that have made members of my congregation unhappy, desiring that I take my show elsewhere. This is true. Equally true is this: I was their shepherd and responsible for how, and where, I lead my sheep. A good shepherd doesn’t make his or her sheep jump the Jordan River when they haven’t had enough time to graze by the waters to get their strength. A good shepherd knows his or her sheep well enough to know what kind of food they can stomach. So this was less a firing and more a divorce. My flock knew that I couldn’t take them where they were ready to go and I knew I could no longer feed them effectively if I hung around. The decision that I move on was painful for all parties involved. Please keep that in mind as you try to make bad guys out of me or them.
Now, this is important. Several bloggers have taken it upon themselves to say how this story is proof that the Methodist Church, or all churches, are broken – products of a dead age.
Duh.
Show me a perfect church or a perfect way of doing church and I’ll show you the realized Kingdom of God among us. It’s not fully here….yet. We are, at present, cracked icons. We see through the glass dimly. It’s very easy to sit from behind a computer screen and say how you or I would/should/could have handled a situation. We all become Armchair Theologians eager to toss our stones from the cheap seats. The irony in all this is that many of the people applauding me for taking a stand for “Love Wins” end up being the people who are the most judgmental towards those they perceive to be less enlightened. In such cases, No One Wins.
I love the Church of Jesus Christ. I believe as United Methodists, though far from perfect, live into our calling to be faithful disciples pretty dang well – or at least we strive to. I’m proud to be a member of this tribe of mongrels.
And for the record, when someone who devotes his or her life to the service of Christ’s church says “no comment” when asked about a split between a church and their shepherd, it need not mean that there is something sinister going on that the ecclesial “powers” are trying to hide. It might just mean that divorces are sad and messy and often complex and you don’t deserve or need a front seat to the bedroom window. In other words, it might just mean,
It’s none of your damn business.
As I think about it, that might be what I tell Good Morning America should they call tomorrow.
And then enjoy my coffee.


Great post! I think the title you chose is perfect. I think it’s sad they felt you should part ways, but sometimes there has to be a parting in order for both parties to grow in their faith. I just finished Bell’s book yesterday (read it in one day) and it definitely makes you think. Reading his book made me realize that for some of us it’s felt like we’ve been given/told only half the Gospel. Love Wins is like finding out the rest of the story to the Gospel and like you said it is Good News!
Jill,
I appreciate your words, but they only prove my point. You say hell is eternity without God, yet others by quoting scripture say that you would be a false teacher for not believing in a place of literal fire, torture, and torment.
I’m not offended by the word speculation… and it certainly isn’t meant to imply that the bible is not true. There are many theories out there as to what happens. Some think they will live in a mansion as they ride around the streets of gold… others believe in a new heaven and a new earth and life as God intended continues, and yet others reject both of these views… and ALL of these positions are based on scripture.
In my opinion, the truth will probably be in the middle and something tells me everyone will be a little surprised… even Randy Alcorn : )
And by the way, my view is not politically correct, nor is it meant to diminish the consequence of sin… I believe to only view heaven as a place we will end up some day is ignoring the consequence of humanity and our proclivity for sin than seeing heaven as a here now AND a not yet reality.
Peace
Tony
Hi Tony, I see where you are coming from and certainly we will all be surprised beyond our wildest imaginations or regrets. And I guess I didn’t make myself clear in that I do believe there will be fire and torment 0f some sort because that is what delights satan, but as a consequence of being cut off from God himself. I believe that hell is our default and that Christ horrific suffering and humiliation was also more than we can imagine. It bothers me that as a mere human of little comprehension of the big picture that it is impossible for us to completely appreciate or understand the totality of christs sacrifice and suffering. I am just glad and thankful that God understands that we are all struggling to understand to the best of our ability and with the help of His word and the Holy Spirit how mind boggling the plan of salvation is. Thus the mustard seed faith is enough for He wants us and is not willing that any perish. We can only know if it’s fullness when we see Him face to face. I agree with your last statement of political correctness in that I really was not referring that part to you, but rather in general. sorry for the missunderstanding. As far as Heaven, I don’t think calling it a middle ground reality is fitting as it is going to be way over the top. And in Randy Alcorn’s book “heaven,”
he has dug up and cross referenced and worth the read. no one knows exaclty but if you haven’t read his book, I recommend it. And as a final note, He doesn’t claim to have all the answers but he makes alot of sense as you follow along where he backs it all up biblically.
well I am falling asleep as I type..continue in His work. Stay on your path and continue to share, as this is how we grow, in engaging in conversations and bouncing things back and forth among other christians.
Thanks for your reply….God bless, Jill
You’re an excellent writer! I’m so glad you wrote this; I sent a copy of the original story the AP wrote to my pastor and he told me I should read this. It makes me much better about life in general *grin* I’d take up too much space if I wrote everything I wanted to, so I’ll just say be blessed on your journey!
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I want to share a resource with you, for you and for some of your responders who share going through similar difficulties. From what you wrote, you may not need this resource, but others may. Ministering to Ministers Foundation (www.mtmfoundation.org) offers 5-day retreats for ministers and spouses who have been wounded in the course of congregational conflict. I did my seminary internship and worked with Ministering to Ministers, (being a fourth generation preacher’s kid and having gone through two forced terminations myself) and I have seen much healing begin and happen through this very needed ministry. The email address is mtmfoundation@verizon.net. I hope you will post this somewhere on your blog if you feel so led, so that this information is available for those who identify with what you have been going through.
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Chad:
Listened in on the gospelrevolution.com webcast from this last Wednesday. Superb – brother! It encourages my heart to hear of another beautiful human coming to the revelation of God’s full embrace of the planet. I too was marginalized out of the church because of my understanding of the complete unconditional love of God. Keep strong. There’s many of us out here that need to hear your wisdom and experience and be encouraged. . . . Keep in touch with Glenn & Mike!
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